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Bah. Today I have conclusive proof that IE is a big pile of steaming horse crap. Been working on this website and in all CSS capable browsers the menu bit remains stationary on the left hand side and the main body of the content scrolls up and down on the right.

In IE it doesn't keep the menu stationary, but that's not really much of a problem. What is a problem is IE putting the content below the menu. Since the menu is the height of the window, it looks like there isn't any content. That's easily fixed having looked around on the net. IE treats floating DIVs different to every other browser out there and assumes by default that the DIVs are block level content. All other browsers pay no attention to whether the content is block level or inline. The solution is to make the DIVs inline and then it puts them in the right place.

Or not. For reasons that have completely baffled me, it was working some of the time. I had thought it was due to having tables of width 100%, so made them not have a forced width, but still some pages were still broken. It's only today that someone else noticed that it's due to the width of the content. If the width is too big to display, IE moves it down below the menu. Which is stupid. I could understand it if it moved it below the menu where there was enough space, but it only moves it vertically. So the page is still wider than the window.

There's only so much bending over backwards to support broken software that I'm willing to do. My solution to this bug is to install a better browser :)


it's acting weird in firefox for me..

I can't do view source because it claims 'the file blahblah can't be found.. check and try again', yet can show it in the main window. Also all the scolly formatting just disappeared when I tried to see how it worked and changed to rendering all flat and plain in default colours..

You must be using some kind of Dark Magic which hides itself when you try to discover it's secrets..


this may be because you're changing it as I speak :)

Nope. Not touching it. There's nothing in place to hide the source. I've not heard of anyone having any problems with Firefox. In fact the person who spotted why IE was being dumb was using Firefox initially to look at the site.

Seems to work OK with firefox for me too. What version Firefox is it? Maybe it's really old and still has a few bugs to work out, or you're living dangerously and using a really new one?

Well yes. I just found this particular example as very evident of just how bad it is. and i think this is clearly worse than anything i've seen netscape 4 too.

is that the lovely one with the nice ship whell picture? i liked that one. I used to use it on the windowsNT in the uni library, i think it is the BEST browser ever and you are both meanies.

Oh I like it too. eggwhite doesn't like it cos it didn't conform to standards much and displayed things oddly. But IE conformed to even less standards and was even worse at display stuff IMO.

re magelist

this is why i do not do online lists or suchlike, i get over posty....

Going uber posty is good :)

Lovely plotty goodness.